Can anyone help? I'm using 4.4gr. I did not use lube during sizing and they did not come into contact with anything. Check out the above web site for your exact needs. Tennessee Gun Owners (TNGunOwners.com) is the premier Community and Discussion Forum for gun owners, firearm enthusiasts, sportsmen and Second Amendment proponents in the state of Tennessee and surrounding region. Select your gauge from the drop-down list. That way when I get around to cranking out a few hundred pistol rounds at a time on the progressive I don't have to take the time to do that knowing that i'm within .1 of a grain of my intended load. This is just something I like to do because you get to see how much those small incremental jumps in powder charge effect the spent primer. Obviously start with the lowest charge, shoot you first group checking the primer for high pressure sign after each shot. Since then I have done 180 more at 4.4 1.135 and they have functioned great in my SAR, M&P and my XD. 70Stingray A forum community dedicated to Trap shooting enthusiasts. I see the same thing happening to the old type AA hull, But when I reload Rem ST no discoloring at all, must be the plastic in the AA Butch H. 700X, Fig8, 16.5 grains, Win 209, 1 1/8 (approx 28 mec bush y.r.m.vary. and 8 lb. Problem solved! If you have a firearm related question, please register and post it on the forums. Just make. I've only used it for very very light target loads I was playing with. Hodgdon lists 700x data for several 1245/125gr bullets. 4.9 gr. 5.5 gr. What else could it be? Try those. My best guess is that since I primed the brass directly after tumbling perhaps there was some moisture left in the casing that did not dry properly? and work my way up 1/10 Gr. By clicking the 'I Agree' button, I understand/accept and will agree to abide by the precautions and warnings outlined above. The only exception I personally have made regarding this was with a hunting bullet that I needed the extra speed to ensure adequate expansion so I was willing to give up a small amount of consistency in exchange for more speed.   Buyers and users assume all risk, responsibility and liability whatsoever for any and all injuries (including death), losses or damages to persons or property (including consequential damages), arising from the use of any product or data, whether or not occasioned by seller's negligence or based on strict liability or principles of indemnity or contribution. All cycled the slide, but I could feel the difference above 3.8. As for a glock barrel, I've ran an couple thousand at the least through a couple glocks and I've yet to see an issue with the poly rifling and plated bullets. Im starting using 700X in my 45s Im loading at the minimum load with a 200gr. Hodgdon®, IMR® and Winchester® powders neither assume nor authorize any person to assume for it any liability in connection with the use of any product or data. Lead Free Bullet Data. That load data came from a Spear manual. Glock/Polygonal rifling creates a better seal with the bullet than with traditional lands and grooves, right? GlockSpock, Find what you need in six easy steps. LRN bullets take less powder because the lead creates a better seal with the barrel, right? to around 4.0 Grs. Also...just a thought...sometimes primer seating depth (ie not seated deeply enough) can cause primer strike ignition problems... CZ; You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Hornady XTP Any brand-Large Pistol Details IMR - 700X 200 gr. That's something I suppose I will just have to learn to account for. I followed the directions and tried a light crimp. Books on Amazon (Want one that can be purchased on Kindle). By That means it's not any worse than other loads/powders.   I remembered that the bullet seating depth is not set by how far you screw in your die but rather how deep the bullet seating screw is set. It's easy! 1.175 in. I tried one of them again...nothing. As far a David's 9mm plated bullets, are they Berry's? Then select your shell, load type, shot weight, powder manufacturer and powder type. The Hodgdon Reloading Data Center utilizes JavaScript to provide the best user experience possible. The same was true of over bored barrels, or barrels that had the forcing cones removed and the gunsmith got a little careless with the chamber clearances. I have been using win 231 with no leading but the stuff is so dirty thats why I changed . With pistol ammo I generally shoot groups and watch the primers. I can't tell you why, but they are fairly clean. Good luck tomorrow and I hope the rain will give you the chance to run off your test loads! I have copied your load and look forward to trying it. Seat them so that the C.O.L. You will really start enjoying this whole process once you have developed a few more loads and start to see the whole cause and effect thing first hand. The WAA12SL wad would also work, but I seem to get better results with the Rem TGT12 or the Downrange clone. All the other powders were out of stock everywhere. Hodgdon ®, IMR ® and Winchester ® powders neither assume nor authorize any person to assume for it any liability in connection with the use of any product or data. As far as the maximum length goes. TGO makes no claims, guarantees or assurances regarding any such transactions. March 27, 2014 in Ammunition and Reloading. I shoot a gaspipe, so it would probably be obvious to me if they were. I usually go with the most accurate lowest charge that reliably cycles the weapon. I, also, experienced the dirty hulls you are describing. I only load 1 oz with 700X, and my STS and Nitro hulls don't come out as you describe. I've read a reloading manual (I think it was The ABC's of Reloading), however that was quite a few months ago and would like to brushup on everything before I start. You must agree to the terms below before continuing. All rounds are within .005" of 1.14". I like 700x in 9mm a lot. Powered by Invision Community, By using this site, you agree to the following.Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Guidelines. I would like a digital copy (as well as a physical copy). I was reading through these instructions: http://leeprecision.com/cgi-data/instruct/Pistol4.pdf. What would that length likely be, or is it best that I adjust .05" or so between bullet types? REM. Before engaging in any transaction of goods or services on TGO, all parties involved must know and follow the local, state and Federal laws regarding those transactions. I started at 4.0 and worked my way up to 4.4 and settled at 4.4 with OAL of 1.135. Home Forums > Ammunition, Gear, and Firearm Help > Handloading and Reloading > 700X - IMR vs. Hodgdon. PPU=4.0 Oh yes, I indeed forgot something. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting, http://handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp, http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, http://www.reloadersnest.com/detail_...0-X&LoadID=251, Ruger SP101 .357 2” bbl, (though I usually shoot .38 Spl +p in it). Around 17.0 grains of 700-X, Winchester W209 primer, STS or AA Hull, 1oz of hard shot, and the Remington TGT12 wad would do quite nicely. You will notice the difference right away..... Just my experience.. Dan Thome (Trap). Thanks. I became interested in it because I do believe it is good to practice with what you actually carry, and I like to carry the good stuff, (fmj hp +P), so it is really not affordable to do that at factory prices, (about a buck a pop). Plated should be between Lead and Jacketed. Started October 26, By Alson need suggeston on a Wad. If you're unsure, or just want options, check as many boxes as you'd like. Access Hodgdon and IMR Load Data in Reload Data Center Hodgdon and IMR powders, including H4198, Varget, H4350, and   I love 700X, and use STS/Nitro hull, CB 1 oz pink wad, Win209 primer and just over 17 grains of 700X. It's the base of the bullet you're concerned with when Boyle's Law applies. It would allow the gasses to blow back past the plastic and get them dirty. 3913 = great. /wp-content/uploads/2016/08/HODGDON_LOGO_DARK.png, https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/h700-x_1lb.jpg. Not much case volume so the second you start seating shorter account for that and knock off a tenth of a grain or so. I've read the Lee instructions, suppose I"ll go with that? Numerous modern smokeless powders are double base in construction, containing both Nitrocellulose and Nitroglycerine. I am changing to Downrange wads as soon as my supply of CB run out. But they would almost always ignite on a second strike from my Glocks. you will get less caught up in the published data, and be the one publishing it. Using bullets from LRNFP Cast, Hornady XTP, Nosler JHP, Sierra JHC, Berry's Bullets FP, Speer JHP, LSWC Cast, Speer is 1.1"? That load might be OK as it is listed for the Winchester AA hull, but it is WAY over the top (pressure wise) in a Remington hull (17.5 @ 11,200 PSI). 27 mec bushing , 15.5 gr. 700X works great in shotgun loads. FC=3.8 So are we using more because it isn't LRN? This isn't always the case but I have found that the most accurate round is seldom the hottest load which is why I mentioned the groups usually start to open back up. The case length won't have any effect on the OAL and like others have mentioned, 1.150" is going to be closer to where you want to be. My 1 oz singles Load may be 8.5 - 8's or 7.5 with a no. I loaded 10 of the 9mm hdy xtp 124 with 3.0gn of 700X, and ten with 3.2gn. Going to try and fire them tomorrow. As far a David's 9mm plated bullets, are they Berry's? Find what you need in six easy steps. So David sold me some 115 Gr. Repeat until you have gone through all loads or you started seeing sign of high pressure. The issue with bulky flake powders like 700x and 800x is that the flakes of powder are all jumbled together.

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