I have tried 6 different 22lr ammo that’s been recommended and every one I have problems with it. The reason the trigger pull is lighter is because it is a SA trigger versus the DA trigger on the original LCP. MSRP: $349 (about $320 retail). The trigger pull on the LCP II most closely resembles the trigger on larger striker fired polymer pistols such as the Glock. I sold the pistol after about 100 rounds. Granted, .380 pocket autos are not guns that you take to the range for fun. Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. Working the gun manually or using it should fix these problems. I have the Gen 2 LCP and I begin to have problems aorund the 80th round, stovepipe & failure to eject. Even after cleaning and using the recommended ammunition, the pistol failed regularly with less than 200 rounds through it. The Glock 42 is a little more pistol than I want to carry in my pocket . I did, however, need to use my other hand or change my grip entirely to put it back on. Has he followed up on what Ruger CS has done? This LCP II also includes a manual safety. The 10-round magazine sits well below the line of the grip, and is required to get even two fingers on the grip of the gun. A .32 the size of a Beretta 84 would be pretty mild. Because I told them to make a .32 version of the LCP and they must have thought it was a typo and I meant to say .22 instead. JavaScript is disabled. You can expect very reliable performance for a few dozen rounds after cleaning and lubricating? If we’re including conventional action .380’s, another interesting one is a Detroit-made PPK clone by Indian Arms (from a time in the ‘70’s when the PPK could not be imported due to the ‘68 GCA). Ruger sells the LCP II with a neoprene pocket holster (which has the Ruger logo on it), and it actually works quite well. You need the mag loader assist (included) or a couple of bandages for sliced fingers. If you are an adult with size large hands, a thumbs-forward grip may not work for you. All of these features together, the improved trigger, the enhanced serrations, the stippling on the grip, and the slightly wider grip size all combine to make the LCP II a better handgun to shoot than the original LCP. Tried Federal AutOmatch and so far working well. Of the two dozen rounds that would fail to fire because of light strikes, all but one would then go off successfully when fired from a Ruger Single Six revolver. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. By that time, it was rare to get a full 5 rounds to go through the gun without a malfunction, significantly lengthening the time it took to shoot groups. Thereafter I had 2 failure to ejects one time and three the other time. I’ve had multiple failures to feed, failures to extract, failures to eject, failures to go into battery, double feeds, failure to lock back on an empty mag, but does lock back on half full mags, and after returning from the factory it still does those things but now I have light strike problems on top of the old ones. Hopefully can shoot it this weekend. Believe I have just answered my own Q but to those who run these little guns absent problems more power to you. Remember, you have to strike rimfire ammunition really hard for reliable ignition. Even little bitty 22s. I guess there isn’t much purpose for the LCP 22. I had no issues simply sweeping my firing hand thumb forward to release the safety and fire. Puts me in mind of an aquantantice of mine who was looking at a Beretta .25 auto one day in a local pawn shop. I usually stop at about one box . There’s a relatively wide and smoothed out section of the grip just above the magazine release. I love the feel of the LCP, but I hate shooting it in .380 — the .22 is awesome though. Made all the difference! There are also .32acp versions of the Beretta. I've been carrying my Smith 340PD and will probably stay w/that. • Haven’t read the review yet. Let’s find out by comparing it to the original LCP. Soon she won’t be able to manage her LCP and she’ll need to choose a larger firearm, or a smaller caliber. Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. Ruger listened to the criticism, which resulted in the birth of the LCP II. © Copyright 2020 Center for the National Interest All Rights Reserved. Style and Appearance * * * If you are going to choose to carry the firearm with a round in the chamber and ready to use, (which is the whole point of the thing), and if you aren’t going to use a rigid holster that completely protects the trigger, then a manual safety is a must on these guns. They are meant to be defensive arms that can be easily carried in the pocket. Ruger LCP II problem (image courtesy JWT for thetruthaboutguns.com). The sights on the LCP II are built into the top of the slide like its predecessor. • Unfortunately, it was almost a perfect replay of the first gun sent to me. I think Ruger misjudged the market which is too bad, because the make some decent guns. My advice is to stay away and hope they fix the bugs. With some ammunition, I couldn’t get through a single 50-round box before the light strikes happened, and it got worse from there. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. A range session feels like driving a Lego through my hand. But in a field of small 22s it is an unexpected gem. Are you planning to replace it? The LCP2 is much much improved. The next box from the brick resulted in several FTE and FTF in the first two mags with a clean gun. Nonetheless, the fact that they are difficult to shoot can be a major problem for training and self-defense purposes. They will advise you what you need to do next. Seated off a bag at 25 yards, the Federal Premium Target 40gr solid cartridge scored an average of 3.6″ groups for five rounds over four shot strings. I never liked the LCP, I felt it was Ruger’s copy of a KelTec. Ruger LCP II in box. The SR22 is a far superior defensive gun for the elderly and arthritic. If SR-22 is a Honda Civic, the LCP is a Smart Car. It's particularly interesting that your problems begin around the 70th round mark. Did I read the review the correctly? Did they succeed? If you are, what will you replace it with? Examples of popular small pocket .380 autos include the original Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .380, and the Kel-Tec P3-AT to name a few. Neither it, nor the front sight, is likely to snag on anything during a draw, or print in a pocket through a fabric holster. This is generally how I run most of my pistols, but it can’t be how I run this gun. Classic Firearms has some used Italian police pistols for sale right now. I had to lock the slide and take the mag out to clear the gun (the spent shell was partially out). It’s second to none in the industry. BATTLE OF THE RUGER .380S: LCP VS. LCP II . … WRT older folks with arthritis or a lack of grip strength, a great alternative is the old Beretta 86 Cheetah in .380 ACP. But despite those advantages, .380 pocket pistols have also been plagued by a number of downsides. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I’ve seen the same thing in my MP15-22. This issue I am having is that when you seat a magazine with the slide locked back, using the same or less force than is required for my LCP Custom or Glock 43, the top bullet in the magazine is rising up just enough that the round will not chamber. I can tell it is catching because of the inserted magazine. These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. Ruger LCP II problem (image courtesy JWT for thetruthaboutguns.com) At under 200 rounds, I gave up shooting standing and sat down to shoot the groups listed above. One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. The original Ruger LCP has been perhaps the most well-known and popular .380 pocket pistol since it was first introduced in 2008. Little .22 pistols suck. The trigger pull on most .380 autos is exceptionally long and gritty. The casings were out of the chamber but not out of gun. I was so hoping Ruger made this gun right. I have the same issues, from light strikes and double stacks takes all the fun I was shooting his gun. I might hold off a bit more. I’m betting that by lightening the trigger they used a lighter hammer spring, resulting in light strikes. It is considerably lighter and smoother than the original LCP and other comparable .380 pistols, and it also features the Glock-style bladed safety that must first be depressed in order for the trigger to be pulled. Thereafter I had 2 failure to ejects one time and three the other time. It’s a great cartridge, just capable of being “enough gun” in the hand of the inexperienced, and plenty of gun in the hand of the expert. Capacity: 10+1 I get the sense that Mr. Taylor is capable of disassembling that LCP II and then finding/installing a stiffer hammer/striker spring. This is were Dave's input could be helpful . BATTLE OF THE RUGER .380S: LCP VS. LCP II. The Ruger LCP didn’t make the first .380 ACP pocket pistol. And it’s a pain in the butt clearing it. So now I have read the review. I have the Gen 2 LCP and I begin to have problems aorund the 80th round, stovepipe & failure to eject. Light primer strikes were the reason for my concern. In this review, we will cover the disadvantages of the .380 pistol that the LCP II sought to remedy, what makes the LCP II an improvement over the original LCP, and the uses for and specifications of the LCP II. Ruger LCP II magazine loader (image courtesy JWT for thetruthaboutguns.com). Yet one more advantage for the LCP II is the fact that the slide locks back on the final round fired to signal you are empty. Let’s find out by comparing it to the original LCP. At some point if you can’t handle a small .380 you need to move up in size of the gun, not down in caliber. I have two 380 LCPs. (Check time stamp) The angle of the pic makes it look like its all sanded but I only did the back end, to get rid of the lip. ©COPYRIGHT 2020, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. He clearly got lemons, too bad. WHAT ARE THE DISADVANTAGES OF THE .380 POCKET PISTOL? The slide contact issue certainly makes sense. It is a nice micro pistol. Barrel Finish: Satin Stainless Now I really do like the gun but that safety has got to be fixed. Both times out I had no issues until around the 70 shot mark. I’m a pretty huge Ruger fan, partially because of their excellent customer service. Another way to prevent getting this page in the future is to use Privacy Pass. Therefore, if you want the slide to lock back, you need to use the magazines that were made specifically for the LCP II. These were with both Winchester’s  36gr HP Copper plated round, and CCI Standard Velocity 40gr Lead Round Nosed cartridges. The SR22 is generally reliable, and is very easy to shoot. I’d not heard that.

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